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Kristoph
It's still in beta though!
http://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en-US/welcome.html
cLu3L355_n008
Clueless holds on to his precious Firefox.
Kristoph
test it out though biggrin.gif
TealLurker
QUOTE (Kristoph @ Sep 2 2008, 05:41 PM) *

Knowing Google products, this will be in beta for like 10 years.

I've tried it out. It's okay. It has a clean interface and its own version of the "Awesome Bar." I also like how crashes in a tab won't crash the entire browser. I wish I could customize it like Firefox. For example, I would like Adblock. I doubt we would get that since they want to drive people to their Google Adsense junk. I'll test it out some more later, but good first impression from me.
FrozenPulse
FireFox is still better.
Peanut
dammit, i wanted to be the one to start a thread on google chrome.

guys, guys, I love firefox. firefox and i snuggle in bed together every night and i love to pet its reddish fur. but there comes a time when we must say to our comfortable browsers, apps, and stuffed animals: "I'm sorry firefox/MSword/chubbles, but I've found something better and I don't need you anymore." That something is google chrome. Try google chrome and you will not be sorry.

for you techheads, here's a link to their overview in graphic novel form with lots of info on the specific development process and specs in the browser: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

LIFE IS GREAT!
Delirium
Chrome is so damn fast O_O
FrozenPulse
QUOTE (Peanut @ Sep 2 2008, 07:53 PM) *
dammit, i wanted to be the one to start a thread on google chrome.

guys, guys, I love firefox. firefox and i snuggle in bed together every night and i love to pet its reddish fur. but there comes a time when we must say to our comfortable browsers, apps, and stuffed animals: "I'm sorry firefox/MSword/chubbles, but I've found something better and I don't need you anymore." That something is google chrome. Try google chrome and you will not be sorry.

for you techheads, here's a link to their overview in graphic novel form with lots of info on the specific development process and specs in the browser: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

LIFE IS GREAT!

Wow ur right!
Magnum
I have been using it since it popped out.

It is fast. It has some flaws, but I like the whole "one box" idea. no garbage just the webpage.. built in auto search.
Spaceball
Being the tech enthusiast that I am, I have tried it and I have to say I am on the fence. It has some very nice features... crash control and incognito mode are particularly nice. The interface isn't really to my liking though, and I really think FF is still the better choice when it comes to security. Keep in mind that chrome is open source, so the things it has going for it are likely to be copied by firefox/ie/opera in the future. I am also a little put off that google has pimped FF so much over the last couple of years and then turns around and releases their own browser just when FF is starting to take a bite out of IE's huge market share. I'm not saying its not a nice product, and if you are still using IE for some reason then I recommend switching, but for now I think I am going to stick with FF.
BladeOfAiur
TRAITORS!

Ok, enough with, the main reason I wouldn't give up FireFox is the fact that it is OpenSource and because of that gives you all the benefits an open community has. No matter how much Google puts into Chrome it just can't provide all the cool addons that FF can. I'm also fairly disappointed they chose to do that, but whatever, we'll see...
BoxersAKA
chrome's new tab page>firefox
chrome load time > firefox
chrome application + java support>firefox
chome garbage collection > firefox
chrome>firefox
go google
QUOTE
the main reason I wouldn't give up FireFox is the fact that it is OpenSource

google chrome is open source
Race
what is open source?
BoxersAKA
QUOTE (Race @ Sep 3 2008, 08:11 AM) *
what is open source?

code is available for public use/additions

edit: how could u have not just googled that and found the answer in 3 seconds
Deathshrimp
Holy crap, Google now owns and operates my entire online experience.
Storr
QUOTE (FrozenPulse @ Sep 3 2008, 11:27 AM) *
FireFox is still better.



yeppers
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (Storr @ Sep 3 2008, 12:50 PM) *
QUOTE (FrozenPulse @ Sep 2 2008, 09:27 PM) *

FireFox is still better.

yeppers

Except that FireFox leaks memory like there's no tomorrow. It's too early to tell if Chrome doesn't do this but I have good reason to believe that it doesn't and, so far, it looks like its fulfilling its promising.

This alone makes Chrome much better than FireFox. I also like the minimalist interface (which FireFox used to have, back when it was called Phoenix) and its sheer speed is seductive...
Race
will there be anything concerning youtube? Like will the video uploader be better? Multiple*
BoxersAKA
QUOTE (Gunboat Diplomat @ Sep 3 2008, 01:40 PM) *
yeppers

Except that FireFox leaks memory like there's no tomorrow. It's too early to tell if Chrome doesn't do this but I have good reason to believe that it doesn't and, so far, it looks like its fulfilling its promising.

This alone makes Chrome much better than FireFox. I also like the minimalist interface (which FireFox used to have, back when it was called Phoenix) and its sheer speed is seductive...

It's important to note that without the memory leak problem, firefox actually overall uses less memory then chrome does while running. I think its just a matter of them being able to fix the problem with firefox then overall capabilities. Chrome is in its beta and firefox is 3.1(?) so we'll see, its hard to judge yet. the best way to some up chrome is in your second line

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its promising


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will there be anything concerning youtube? Like will the video uploader be better? Multiple*

Well, the browser runs a little faster but it will hardly make a difference with youtube. One of the selling points of Chrome is its better web application support, so its up to them if they want to try to introduce a better system for youtube, but for now nothing has been released so I wouldn't expect much for a while.
Race
i dont like how it doenst let me rapidscrool >_> Also it crashed twice on youtube ohmy.gif And i cant enter irc
BoxersAKA
Yeah its a new browser so alot of browser apps arent gonna support it for a while. Also yeah the youtube crashes are pretty common. They just need to get the kinks worked out. A beta browser is a beta browser
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (BoxersAKA @ Sep 3 2008, 01:58 PM) *
It's important to note that without the memory leak problem, firefox actually overall uses less memory then chrome does while running. I think its just a matter of them being able to fix the problem with firefox then overall capabilities. Chrome is in its beta and firefox is 3.1(?) so we'll see, its hard to judge yet. the best way to some up chrome is in your second line

Sadly, I don't think it's all that "important to note." FireFox has been leaking since day one and it's on version 3.1 now. It has had plenty of time to mature and fix its issues. This is clearly a fundamental problem with FireFox (as with all browsers before Chrome, actually) and will not be fixed anytime soon if ever. That means that this is part of its "overall capabilities."

I don't think Chrome uses much more memory than FireFox so I consider the added stability well worth it. Its speed and UI are just icing on the cake for me (although, again, the speed is so seductive)...
BoxersAKA
I guess I can see what you are saying with firefox, although I never use my computer for anything high spec'd and if i do I keep everything closed because my computer is bad, so I have never experienced the problem only heard about it.

After doing some research, I learned that the memory issue is broken down like this.

Per tab(1 single tab) memory wise, internet explorer takes the least, followed by chrome and then firefox. It is with multiple tabs, however(what most people use anyway) that makes firefox faster memory wise. At 8 tabs open, firefox takes up less memory then its two competitors. IE (bad and who cares) takes up the most, and chrome shortly behind. The way Chrome handles tabs is using them as seperate processes. So as number of tabs increase the memory/tab ratio increases but it is more stable.

Summary: Chrome takes slightly more memory at larger number of tabs but less at 1/2 tabs

Revo
Opera is still faster smile.gif
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (BoxersAKA @ Sep 3 2008, 02:39 PM) *
I guess I can see what you are saying with firefox, although I never use my computer for anything high spec'd and if i do I keep everything closed because my computer is bad, so I have never experienced the problem only heard about it.

After doing some research, I learned that the memory issue is broken down like this.

Per tab(1 single tab) memory wise, internet explorer takes the least, followed by chrome and then firefox. It is with multiple tabs, however(what most people use anyway) that makes firefox faster memory wise. At 8 tabs open, firefox takes up less memory then its two competitors. IE (bad and who cares) takes up the most, and chrome shortly behind. The way Chrome handles tabs is using them as seperate processes. So as number of tabs increase the memory/tab ratio increases but it is more stable.

Summary: Chrome takes slightly more memory at larger number of tabs but less at 1/2 tabs


Thank you for the informative diagram!

Yes, I do use my browser intensely but that's a given. If you don't use your browser much then why do you care about its performance? Just let it be the resource hog it wants to be for the short time it's run and then close it afterwards...

Of course, your provided diagram reflects the initial state of said browsers. As you continue to use the browsers and reuse the browsers' tabs the memory usage will go up indefinitely for all except hopefully Google Chrome. Obviously I haven't been able to test this very much (due to it just being released yesterday) but I'm doing so as you read this and it looks promising. In time, we'll see if it holds its promise but if it does (and I expect it to) then it will be technologically ahead of FireFox as its design would suggest...
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (Revolutionary @ Sep 3 2008, 03:34 PM) *
Opera is still faster smile.gif

I use Opera and I disagree. Chrome appears to be faster than even Opera and I'm not the only one who thinks so...
CaffeineFree
QUOTE (Peanut @ Sep 3 2008, 04:53 AM) *
dammit

I don't think i've ever heard you swear before.....anyway, since YOU recommend it, i'll be sure to check it out wink.gif
Revo
QUOTE (Gunboat Diplomat @ Sep 3 2008, 03:50 PM) *
I use Opera and I disagree. Chrome appears to be faster than even Opera and I'm not the only one who thinks so...

Well, you can't really compare right now. Chrome is quite light on the features right now, only featuring the essentials, while the other browsers have more features. It's bound to get heavier with more and more features added in.
Storr
QUOTE (Revolutionary @ Sep 4 2008, 06:04 AM) *
Well, you can't really compare right now. Chrome is quite light on the features right now, only featuring the essentials, while the other browsers have more features. It's bound to get heavier with more and more features added in.



i agree tongue.gif
iamjacksrevenge
QUOTE (Deathshrimp @ Sep 3 2008, 02:49 PM) *
Holy crap, Google now owns and operates my entire online experience.


That's exactly why I'll be sticking to FF, for now anyway. There's something in me that just can't trust a company that knows everything you're doing online, all the time. Maybe it's crazy to think of Google in those terms, because of the "don't be evil" philosophy, but look at what it did to Microsoft.

Unless Chrome proves to be vastly superior in the long run, I'll be in my cave with the other FF talibans.
BladeOfAiur
Who cares about OpenSource, does it have a cool addon like FootieFox? I doubt it. Until it doesn't I'm not even thinking about changing FF. I love my FootieFox, that way I know what happens in all soccer leagues in the world. biggrin.gif
Yes, I like soccer.
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (iamjacksrevenge @ Sep 3 2008, 05:09 PM) *
That's exactly why I'll be sticking to FF, for now anyway. There's something in me that just can't trust a company that knows everything you're doing online, all the time. Maybe it's crazy to think of Google in those terms, because of the "don't be evil" philosophy, but look at what it did to Microsoft.

Unless Chrome proves to be vastly superior in the long run, I'll be in my cave with the other FF talibans.

For me, it has already done that!

What did Google to do Microsoft?
CaffeineFree
Wow this thing is fast as hell, and I like the way it loads better too.

But adobe or w/e doesn't support it(Yet, lol) so I can't listen to music on myspace and probably alot of other sites.
Race
bah youtube crashes randomly sometimes when i use it ohmy.gif
Kristoph
It's not really FF that has the problem with memory leak, I'ts the number of addons that you have IMHO..

but yeah,chrome does have its problems.,. Animated gifs are slower (very weird)
TealLurker
So I uninstalled Google Chrome. I got the following message on the uninstall. "Are you sure you want to uninstall Google Chrome? (Was it something we said?)" Frankly, I don't care for their EULA, the invasion of privacy, and security flaws. Ultimately, I feel that the less Google products I use, the better I'm off. I don't need them in every aspect of my Internet life.
Race
lol when it crashed on me, it said Snap, there was a problem
Omi
I was totally sold on Chrome in the first 2 minutes of using it. I too noticed that mouse scrolling isn't supported in it, but to me, that's hardly an upset in face of all the great reasons why I prefer it to Firefox, my previous love. I also find it pretty neat how it's DOM is built similarly to Safari's (as opposed to creating a new faction in the Browser Wars).
Gunboat Diplomat
QUOTE (Kristoph @ Sep 3 2008, 07:52 PM) *
It's not really FF that has the problem with memory leak, I'ts the number of addons that you have IMHO..

Considering how I don't use add-ons, I highly doubt this was the cause of the incessant leak...
WC8
Google Chrome's issue is going to be the common browser. Most people switched from IE to FireFox as casual browsers because of tabbed browsing and other convenience features. Chrome is technological advances over FF, but I haven't seen a convenience feature that has surpassed FF yet. Anyways, I'll be sticking with FF. Mozilla bin Firefox has AK47s.

BTW: I have XP. Installing this weekend.
iamjacksrevenge
QUOTE (Gunboat Diplomat @ Sep 3 2008, 07:21 PM) *
For me, it has already done that!

What did Google to do Microsoft?


I meant "look at what being omnipresent and all-powerful" did for Microsoft.
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