Race
Oct 26 2008, 12:32 PM
Ive seen a couple people put 4 probes instead of 3 on gas and i know they didnt do it on accident. Does having 4 probes on gas really help mine faster? If so, is it more effective then 3 on gas?
Radivel
Oct 26 2008, 12:42 PM
If you were able to mine gas at a speed of 3.1 probes per gas mine, it'd be perfect. Obviously you only put the 4th one on if you need to get gas urgently and a tiny bit faster.
Delirium
Oct 26 2008, 01:09 PM
3. Unless you're on katrina as Terran or Protoss then your main needs 4.
Depending on the mineral placement theoretically you could lift your cc closer xD
neobowman
Oct 26 2008, 01:22 PM
Ah yes, the infamous (at least amoung mappers) gas issue. If the gas is placed either directly above or 1 square to the left of directly above, then you only need 3. If it is placed directly to the left, you also only need 3. All other directions need 4.
0- best gas position
C-command centre.
- - Dirt
----00
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0---C
If you check all the recent pro maps, all of the gas geysers in their mains either are to the left or aboev the starting point. Katrina is an exception because they needed the rotational balance for the gas. They just made it so 4 workers are needed at every starting point as to not hurt the rotational balance.
Delirium
Oct 26 2008, 01:30 PM
I'm going to be a fag and mention:
Building placement to improve mining.
Race
Oct 26 2008, 01:33 PM
hmm? I dont build pylons and shit that blox my gas from being harvested
Salv
Oct 26 2008, 02:45 PM
You can make it mine faster though too, althought it's not a big deal. Everyone here pretty much covered it.
neobowman
Oct 26 2008, 04:30 PM
Buildings placed next to gas mining will actually slow mining. It's a proven fact.
neobowman
Oct 26 2008, 04:49 PM
Double post X_X
Dark747
Oct 26 2008, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (neobowman @ Oct 26 2008, 10:30 AM)

Buildings placed next to gas mining will actually slow mining. It's a proven fact.
May I have a url?
TheYango
Oct 26 2008, 10:01 PM
QUOTE (neobowman @ Oct 26 2008, 12:30 PM)

Buildings placed next to gas mining will actually slow mining. It's a proven fact.
Depends on the actual placement of the building, and how it changes the worker path.
neobowman
Oct 26 2008, 11:27 PM
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=1481You can test the problem (including buildings) using this map.
URZA
Nov 2 2008, 05:04 AM
4 on ure gas will make it goes faster
Revo
Nov 2 2008, 05:20 AM
The difference between 3 and for is so insignificant, it almost doesn't matter..
Katrina needs four though in the main
neobowman
Nov 2 2008, 06:22 AM
Bah, I feel as noone has been listening to me. I'll write it shorter for everyone.
If the gas is placed in the closest distance possible to the top or to the left of your cc/hatchery/nex, then you only need 3 to mine at completely maximum effeciency. At the other positions, you need 4 but this will only matter in ZvZ where even just a hundred more gas is crucial.
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